In this episode of Sailing A B Sea Baz breaks down the cost of buying a yacht. Including the cost of haul out fees, custom built davits, solar panels, dinghy...
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What does it all cost? Quite a few people
commenting either via our blogs or our
YouTube videos have expressed an
interest in what it's cost us so far to
get to the point of actual sailing.
So that's what I'll be breaking down in
this video. I'll talk a little bit about
our thought processes behind each decision
and also give you a cost of the
individual items in Euros and also in
Australian dollars I'll put those on the
screen right here. I'm purposely not
including any of the scuba diving gear
that we purchased which is quite
expensive but of course that's a
personal choice and it's not going to be
everyone who's going to be buying that
sort of stuff so we're leaving that out
for the purposes of this video. As
permanent liveaboards with aspirations
of sailing back to Australia eventually
we had an idea of certain things that we
wanted when it came to boat buying time.
Let's take boat lengths as an example.
Crossing oceans comfortably meant we
wanted a vessel over 40 feet but we
didn't want anything bigger than 47 feet
because generally there's just the two
of us on board unless of course we're
crossing an ocean then we would have
extra crew and sailing a bigger boat on
a short-handed crew can be quite
difficult. The other factor about boat
length is the maintenance and the haul
out berthing cost in marinas and of
course the costs increase rapidly the
more footage you have in your boat. With
that in mind we eventually bought a 1995
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45.1. Her length overall is 14.15
metres which is 46.42 feet so she just scraped into our size
rang. We paid 75,0000 euros which
may have been a tad high but she is in
good condition for a 23 year old.
Condition of the vessel leads me on to
our next major cost which is the
pre-purchase survey. This is a
non-refundable expense which the buyer
pays in full so the key for us was to do
a lot of online research in the key
things to look at when first inspecting
a vessel. For example if she's out of the
water does the hull show signs of
blistering which is osmosis? If it does
then walk away as fast as you possibly
can.
Other things to look for is there a lot
of water in the bilge? Tracking down
leaks can be very time-consuming and
quite expensive. How many hours are on
the engine? Does the engine compartment
look clean and well-maintained? Is there
an actual service history record of the
engine maintenance? Now if the vessel
passes the initial viewing and she's
obviously not falling apart now's the
time to book you surveyor. A handy little tip
here try and find a surveyor who's not
associated with the marina or the broker
that you're buying from. This reduces the
risk of any bias. I would also say that
if it's practical and possible then you
should be there on survey day too so
that you can follow your surveyor around
and ask lots of questions. It really is a
great way to learn lots about your
vessel in a very short space of time. And
the bonus is it also provides you with
lots of information for negotiating on
the price once the complete survey is
issued. Our total surveyor cost was one
thousand two hundred and forty euros
which is broken down like this:
The pre-purchase survey was nine hundred
and ninety eight euros the sea trial was
eighty two euros the travelling expenses
for the surveyor was 160 euros and also
included in those prices is 21% Spanish
VAT of two hundred and fifteen euros.
It's also highly recommended to haul out
boat two days prior to the survey
day. This is another cost that you're
going to have to cover yourself and in
our particular case with an extra two
days on the hard stand to let the hull
fully dry before checking the moisture
levels our haul out the cost was five
hundred and forty three euros.
As liveaboards with long distance
cruising in mind there were certain
additions we wanted on our boat to make
daily life easier
and to give us as much self-sufficiency
as possible. The first thing we wanted
was a custom-made stainless steel davit
on the stern of our vessel and basically
this is just to make life easy for two
people raising or lowering the dinghy. A
secondary function of our stainless steel
davits is that they serve as a mounting
for our solar panels. The total cost for
the davits was four thousand seven
hundred and twenty-five euros - that is
made and installed.
We also had 600 watts of solar panels
installed and of course when it's sunny
this provides us with all the electrical
power we need to run our two computers,
watch movies, power the fridge and light
us up like a Christmas tree at night. The
total cost for the materials and the
installation of the solar panels was
three thousand two hundred and thirty
three euros and it breaks down like this:
Four x 150 watt polycrystalline panels - one
thousand one hundred and thirty six
euros. A 12 volt 50 amp MPPT controller -
320 euros a 220 volts 800 watt inverter 315 Euros
A Victron BNV 700 battery
monitor - 187 euros. Cables connectors and
sundry items - 284 euros and the labour of
413 euros. There is also again 21%
Spanish VAT of 561 euros that gets added
on to those prices.
In previous blogs and YouTube videos
we've gone into details as to why we
bought some of the next things on the
list that I'm about to talk about so I
won't rehash those details here. These
are some of the vital things you're
gonna need just for everyday living on
the boat. We bought a Zodiac Cadet 330
dinghy that was two thousand two hundred
and forty nine euros. To go with the
dinghy
we bought a mercury eight horsepower
four-stroke engine - that was two thousand
three hundred and five euros. A vital
piece of safety equipment is of course
your life raft and we bought a brand new
four person Aramir Open Sea 9650 life
raft and the cost for that was 1670 Euros
As liveaboards one of our
decisions is to stay away from costly
marinas as much as possible so we
invested quite heavily in our anchor
because when we drop it we want to know
that when we wake up in the morning
we're gonna be in exactly the same place
as when we started the night. We decided
on a Mantus 38 kilo 85 pound galvanized
anchor and that cost us one thousand
three hundred and four euros. However
because it had to be imported into Spain
we also got slapped with an import tax
of 300 euros. Now the Mantus anchor is a
big anchor, that's why it does its job so
well and lots of other cruisers have
reported having to make modifications to
their bow rollers or of the bow area in
general. We were no different and we had
to make some modifications to our
stainless steel pulpit to make the
Mantus fit and work properly and the
cost for that was 360 euros. We also had
A B Sea's standing rigging completely
replaced but in negotiations Jose and
ourselves agreed that we would cover the
cost of that 50/5. So our 50 percent
cost us 3044 euros. There were a lot of
incidental things that were purchased
and fitted along the way too and these
collectively added up to 21 hours of
labour. They included things like
antifouling, offshore fleurs, anode
replacement and spare anodes, 150 metres
of extra line water and diesel jerry cans
etc, etc and in total they added up to
3540 euros
The whole boat survey took about nine
hours and at the end of the day our
surveyor announced that generally our
boat was in really really good condition.
A week later we received the written
survey report and then proceeded to
share this with Jose the broker. This is
where a good relationship with your
broker and a willingness from both
parties to negotiate and compromise is
essential. So what I'll do here is just
list the items that we negotiated with
Jose as to being replaced or repaired at
his cost. Usually if you negotiate it
correctly it is the owner of the vessel
that will cover these costs. In our
unique case Jose was the owner of the
boat because he'd taken her in part
exchange for a brand new Hanse that
he was selling to the previous owner. The
following items are the ones that Jose
agreed to cover the cost of: Replacement
of five through holes and sea cocks that
were badly corroded, one of them actually
had the handle snapped off; removal of
the rusty rudder stock quadrant and
replacement with a brand new custom-made
stainless steel quadrant; several small
fiberglass repairs were made around the
boat and in particular quite a nasty
little chip out of the bottom of the
rudder; the complete hot water system was
replaced; the three service batteries and
one engine battery were all replaced; the
cooling element and compressor for the
fridge was completely replaced; the bilge
pump float switch was replaced; some
loose stanchions and the teak handrails
were firmly secured; the vessel was
removed from the Spanish ship registry
and also there was a background check to
make sure there were no outstanding
debts or fines on the vessel. Jose also
agreed to investigate and repair the
cause of a pressure loss in the
freshwater system; the green navigation
light was fixed and the steaming light
and deck floodlight was replaced; all of
the flexible hoses on the gas system
were replaced and as I mentioned
previously Jose paid 50% towards the
cost of replacing the standing rigging.
Another thing to take into consideration
is that while all this work is getting
done you will have berthing costs for
the vesse. In our particular case all
the repairs replacements and
installations took three months and Jose
agreed to pay two months of the berthing
cost if we covered one month. And just as
a little side note here, the marina at
Las Salinas cost 800 euros a month
that included electricity water and
Wi-Fi.
How much you decide to spend on
individual items is a personal choice
and of course it is restrained by your
budget. We didn't skimp on important
things like the life raft, life jackets
and the dinghy and outboard. After all
what price do you put on your own life?
Laabour costs are fairly high in Spain and
if we'd had the knowledge and the tools
available to us then we might have
tackled some of the labour work ourselves
but you have to work with what you're
given and overall we are very happy with
the experience we had in purchasing A B Sea.
And we're extremely happy with Jose and
his team at Marina Estrella Murcia. After
three months in the marina we're now
sitting at anchor off a beautiful beach
in Formentera in the Spanish Balearic
Islands. But it didn't come cheap, the
total cost for everything so far is
ninety nine thousand five hundred and
forty three euros. I'll now include a
complete list of the figures I've just
talked about for the number-philes and
for those of you who may be considering
taking this same journey that we've
begun. If you have any questions please
leave them in the comment section down
below, I'm very happy to answer them for
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